I think although the Boston manager has a point about points per game to a certain extent, the same could be argued if everyone started the same, any hard work and good play over half a season would be lost. So starting from scratch would be a non starter imo too, whatever you do it will have to be one game only as time is running out, each side will have to play each other once, and this must be done with as much evening out as possible, so all clubs get an equal home away ratio; Where two clubs like Boston and York play Eastbourne, to cut costs it can be played ona neutral ground like Gloucester or the Velocity or Dorking. Also in the early part without crowds it really doesn't matter where the game is played, little advantage imo.
I think if this is a starter
1) Teams get to play at least 21 competitive games. 2) sponsorship revenue is honoured. 3) paid video streams as income will help the coffers. 4) promotion is a possibility
Quote from Eastbourne chairman: " If it were to go ahead, it is expected that those taking part would all play one another once.
*It is not clear whether points accrued so far this season could be used to create an initial league table".*
This seems to be main stumbling block, this or start from scratch. Why not a compromise handicap system work out points per,
Then instead of putting it in apply handicap system in reverse, those in top two 6 points starter those in playoff positions 3 points everyone else 0 .
This has to be solved swiftly, you can't go to the FA with half baked proposals, get it sorted. If you want to play on : 6 points to aim at isn't hard if you're good enough, not is 6 point starter if you think you are good enough. Simples...
Yes, they have to get it ratified by the FA. Also 2 clubs applying for step 7 promotion, is being tabled... Still mini league proposal emails went out yesterday according to @olly_Bayliss to each club wanting feedback on current proposals,until this is dealt with nothing else will be proposed if anything.
Interesting: looks as though this is all quite likely to happen in the not-too-distant future. None of this ever seems to make the Oxford Mail, so thanks to 'newsboy' for keeping us all abreast of the latest developments.
Well it still has to go to the F A to ratify, if the Committee think it holds water, but it honours the null and void, ( With definitely No Relegation) Then carries over a ranking system for the mini league based on points accumulated, this will not be huge. Two promoted added to National League: Clubs have already been invited to participate or not by email and give their views, this i believe has now concluded.
Important point made from Darlington forum: In the detail and wording of resolution: Of course it all depends on whether The FA see it that way; I don't think we will have to wait too long now:
Here's the resolution that was voted on: www.thenationalleague.org.uk/na ... ions-65069 That, conditional upon Resolution 1 being passed, the 2020/21 Playing Season of the National League North and the National League South (Step 2) shall immediately end on the date this Resolution 3 is passed and be declared null and void and subject to the approval of The Football Association those Regulations that provide for promotion and relegation to and from Step 2 be suspended for the 2020/21 Playing Season. The key word there is "suspended". It is open to interpretation, but to me "suspended" in that context means promotion/relegation has been stopped, but could be resumed. All this resolution finishes is the North/South seasons. So promotion and relegation could be re-applied in any new competition.
Certainly at no point does it explicitly rule out promotion and relegation in any context this season. All this resolution rules out is promotion/relegation based on the league competition we started in October.
If the league chooses to re-apply promotion and relegation to a new competition, I wouldn't mind. It won't materially affect us as we wouldn't continue playing. The idea of "we can't get promoted, so no one can" would be plain childish.
Put this way, if we wanted to play on and had a decent chance of promotion, in this scenario we would be arguing in exactly the same manner as Gloucester and AFC Fylde are doing now.
I don’t believe relegation should be applied (at least not to clubs who’ve voted to stop playing). But no issue with promotion at all among clubs who are capable of continuing.
It really does gets worse the more info I'm picking up. "Integrity" of the National League has been lost long since. Who proposed 75%-55% vote and 3 votes, or was it four votes for some, the whole thing was a nonsensical farce. The whole point of having a league board is they make the decisions not the clubs. Then you had while voting was in progress a band of clubs openly not only breaking rules, but forming an alliance on Twitter openly refusing to play where's the integrity there? I've got plenty more i could say, but I won't, other than some officials had to find out from news feeds of the outcome. They didn't have the decency to inform them directly, before press release, yeah that's integrity for you.
As for your reference to friendlies Chris, that is now being discussed by clubs i believe, if it does happen, it will be from April.
Now our club will lose its loan players which it worked dam hard to get via scouting, coaching staff and of course David, Justin, and Paul Lyon. It loses sponsorship revenue, probably the best we have had, we did well in the cup competitions, which of course helps, but the work that went into getting that squad was huge and they were the best city side I've seen, probably going to be scattered in the wind, who knows no doubt being picked up by clubs that shafted us during the farcical vote. This sort of integrity stinks... Rant over...
Oh well it more or less two legal case going on at once to recover lost revenue.
Talking from an Historical angle; How are you going to handle this Chris?
If the NL results have been declared null & void then I suspect some clubs will ignore them. My own feeling is that you can't actually make those games 'unhappen' and, as they were bona fide competitive games at the time they were played, I won't be deleting them from my records. Not quite so sure about any friendlies (e.g. v Gloucester)...I've never counted appearances/goals in pre-season friendlies towards players' totals. I guess it's all a matter of what folk at different clubs feel, there are no hard and fast rules about what does or doesn't count. (Probably why Shep's figures and my figures for Jack Woodley, and some others from that era, were fairly different!!)
What strange bedfellows.. I've certainly had my disagreements with Steve King, and indeed Marc of Dorking in the past, usually near the dugouts,during matches, in the good old days when we were allowed in, i think last time we spoke he asked me whether i had taken my medication concerning a disagreement over a penalty decision.
Agree with him totally, things have to change, what i found rather funny was a Darlington official comparing it to the Brexit vote.. yeah 75% and 55% threshold to reach, i think not, there would be blood on the streets...
Interesting, this could easily end up with Dover going down, then dear me, 21 sides or worse being left in a ever decreasing National prem, I wonder if the FA or National league have ever thought about a mini league or a points per for promotion purposes to solve the problem, and thereby keeping the INTEGRITY of the league intact. 😂