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Post by Steve Bateman on Jun 4, 2013 15:18:01 GMT
What is the betting that he won't be here (or maybe indeed OCFC) by the time Santa's dropped his presents off in December?
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Post by IDEK on Jun 4, 2013 15:52:19 GMT
Hope so! Slimeball.
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Post by Interval on Jun 4, 2013 15:53:25 GMT
Steve any chance of you not being here by Christmas
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Post by Steve Bateman on Jun 4, 2013 20:20:25 GMT
Only if I get compensation in the form of my body weight in Old Hooky.
I am 6ft 6 and 20 stone.
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Post by Tommy on Jun 5, 2013 0:41:28 GMT
Well this site is now officially UNOFFICIAL fans forum with no link to the main website like other clubs now, sad But well inevitable really!
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Post by Fan57 on Jun 5, 2013 10:37:12 GMT
Asking hopeful kids to pay $250 just to apply for the 'Sports College' with the false promise of developing them into professional footballers: www.oxfordcityfc.com/sports-college/Asking for payment just to 'register' for trials: www.oxfordcityfc.com/trials/Even if the club is financially protected (which I have doubts about), isn't it bad enough that the name and image of Oxford City FC is being used to front such a transparent and morally disgusting scam? If I were one of the people who worked so hard to build City's reputation as a good honest club that wins awards for its community work, I would be furious that this man has thrown that all away in one fell swoop. Instead it seems the club is cutting off worried fans for voicing legitimate concerns. Very sad.
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Post by Fan57 on Jun 5, 2013 10:41:48 GMT
Btw, many thanks to Padz for keeping the forum open. It's such a shame you were put in that position.
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Post by Bookman on Jun 5, 2013 11:24:46 GMT
Fully agree with the thanks to Padz and also regret that you have been put under pressure. The club should value you more. But fans are surely right to voice their concerns. Yer man's website is still seeking sponsorship for naming rights of the stadium, which we do not own, and for naming rights of our big screen, which we not possess. The latter is accompanied by a picture of a stadium which is clearly not Court Place Farm. Misrepresentation or attempted fraud?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 11:42:56 GMT
I would also like to thank Padz, Sharon and Chris, and Ash also those who keep us up to date on, on and off the field matters and would please appeal to those who are posting on other threads not to do so,like ferret racing night and bingo, unless it has something to do wth that subject! I would also take this opportunity to say if any financial backing is needed to keep a fans forum open, I will contribute. We don't want to go like Brackley whose fans forum has come to an end through lack of interest, unless they are planing on opening a new one in the near future or have one that I don't know about .
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Post by ChrisB on Jun 5, 2013 12:12:59 GMT
As Padz says elsewhere, the Forum will remain open (with the same url), and I'm sure he and I and others will keep folk posted about the footballing occurrences at Marsh Lane. Similarly the Pitchero ( www.pitchero.com/clubs/oxfordcityfc/) site will continue to run with all the fixtures and results for all the OCFC-related teams.
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Post by DavidJ on Jun 5, 2013 18:13:47 GMT
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Post by hedges on Jun 5, 2013 19:36:29 GMT
It is a sad state of affairs when other teams fans are concerned/taking the piss.... Not really sure what to say, but whatever I say won't make a shred of difference.
I mean on the face of it really is pretty bad, lunacy in fact. But i would still be weary of taking or joining any action against it. Since its behind the scenes, plenty of crap goes on behind the scenes at football clubs.
My opinion will change if we go half next season without a win, players distracted, a fast,rapid turn over of players....rumors of hemorrhaging money, Fordy stepping down/being sacked etc... Since in my opinion we have a good set of players that should have no probs securing mid table. As a club we have a sustainable business model as it stands and quality young players coming through.
The only thing this guys SEEMS to be doing is destroying our reputation which at this point doesn't really make that much difference, the fact the local press aren't following it up is probably a good thing, if our reputation is trashed in America, is it that big of a deal?....We're hardly a team anyone has heard of over there.
Protest is ultimately a possible option....We could put a skull and crossbones on the flag with 'Only a matter of time' on it.
The alternative is and who knows this could be currently going on, the Oxford City lawmen are indeed working out the legalities of cutting ties with this guy, which would explain the deafening silence.....we live in hope!
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Post by Undertaker on Jun 5, 2013 21:30:49 GMT
Padz, who put the pressure on? Was it the Yank or someone who was already in a position of power? What threats were made? By whom? What are the Brits doing about rescuing the situation? We need to know so people know what they're up against.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 22:34:13 GMT
Just like to say I'll be keeping some of you updated with press releases, and other info, I know a few don't get the oxford mail And all the info is not on their website for obvious reasons (they want to sell papers). As for the goings on I do hope everything settles down soon and we can return to normality what ever that may be .
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Post by Steve Bateman on Jun 6, 2013 18:57:05 GMT
Well done to Padz, Sharon, Chris, Ash and all those working hard to keep the integrity of the club intact.
As for protests, well we can always start something on gopetition.com or put pressure on the local media to ask 'The Yank' the tough questions.
I am very much reminded of Aldershot with the guy who now owns Farnborough, and some Walt investor who appeared as the would be saviour of Weymouth FC a few years back... Beer I think his name was?
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Post by Barney on Jun 9, 2013 20:27:01 GMT
To the poster who seemed concerned about OUFC supporters getting involved, I think concern for OCFC goes a lot wider across the whole non-league world than just the lot in yellow across town.... www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=486246;page=2;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;guest=103828921There are a lot of seasoned posters on there, who have seen the demise of many a great and well-known non-league names through the misguided (to be polite) actions of certain individuals over the years, so their concern is a real concern, and sure as hell NOT a p#ss-take (as neither are those threads on OUFC sites either), so until something official comes out explaining why anybody should not be worried, the rest of football IS concerned about OCFC, even if it seems some of those closest to the club are not.... I just hope this is all a bad dream
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Post by ITK on Jun 10, 2013 8:03:28 GMT
With the greatest of respect Barney I take your point but that was early in the thread , and he was put in his place By a number of posters and has not been back, someone suggested it was the man himself I very much doubt it but you never know. I'd like to think we have moved on since then, and criticism of either club is not nice if you wear your heart on your sleeve. As for my own opinion I have Been watching both clubs for a number of years (can't get to away games). And with United a bit of success and the debt which Mr Lenegan has taken on himself is his really and not the clubs Will be wiped away he has already started with the sponsorship idea and other good insentives . As for City well this all came as a shock but there was reason however naive for this situation . During the latter part of the season past City needed urgent investment for ground improvements The money from the council was not there yet and things were looking difficult. And as this guy was in contact for six months I can only think that this is the reason worried that all the good Work on the field was going to be undone ,cost of travel to Northern clubs low gate money due to fixture Pile up. All none league clubs look for investment , let's hope City can sort the situation out , having met most of the officials I can say that they had the best interests of the club at heart, let's hope the situation can be sorted out sooner rather than later.
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Post by Barney on Jun 10, 2013 9:42:52 GMT
From a distance, my perception (and I think the general one) is that OCFC have been very sensible over the last few years and have kept the finances and the playing side of things healthily balanced as they've moved up the ladder, rather than the boom and bust that other clubs try (eg. truro). So, is what you are now saying ITK, that the additional costs of playing in a league that covers 2/3 of the country geographically and required ground improvements are outweighing revenue,particularly on the back of a weather-disrupted fixture list, and for that reason the club were looking for investment and this guy was the best/only option available?
If so, then OK, I can see why they've done this, albeit as you say a tad naively perhaps. So, what is to be done now that more is emerging about the guy and his initial ventures into 'revenue-generation' are in print? 1) what actual money have OCFC seen so far, or is all promised on the back kit sales etc? 2) how bad would things look if TG & co just disappeared, or maybe put a better way, how bad would things look if it WAS all just a bad dream? 3) are there no other investors hovering to step in a more traditional manner? 4) what sort of amounts are we looking at here - is it one-off ground improvements that have raised this problem, or is the basic profit/loss budget now out of balance since arriving in the Conference North? 5) How financially entwined are the football and ground side of things with the area in which TG is doing his stuff - can they basically get on with what they are doing and leave him to it, or are they already reliant on the money he has put in (has he?) and/or promised?
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Post by ITK on Jun 10, 2013 10:03:21 GMT
You raise some very good points and questions Barney I can only tell you what I know . I await like you for the answers. There were two options to wait for a decision from the council on funding/grant , which came through But very near to the march deadline I think Feb it was granted, and by then I think things had moved to a critical stage With Himself . A decision was made which has left City in this predicament, Others know more and it is up to them Whether they will share it or not, don't forget some of them are junior staff and have pressure of loyalty on there shoulders As well as employee terms and conditions hanging over them . As for a statement from the club on here, very unlikely now they have cut ties !
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Post by Julian Dark on Jun 11, 2013 9:53:24 GMT
Sorry I've not read all this thread and some of this might have been covered in earlier comments. I would just like to confirm that this website: www.oxfordcityfc.co.uk which links to the Pitchero template will continue to run. I have renewed my domain subscription for another two years as it now enters its 15th year of being up and running...yes we were one of the first to get a website in the non-league! I have no idea (or indeed any communication) regarding what's happening with the .com website but this .co.uk one will continue so all work by the admins like Chris & Padz won't be wasted and if we ever have to shut down this pitchero site we can easily create a new one and re-link the .co.uk domain. One thing I have noticed Padz - is that if this Pitchero website has now been made unofficial, why is the link for the Forum on the main page missing? Can't we just re-enable it? It's almost like having Mick Woodley back when I first set this website up all those years ago!! :-) I notice as well that all posts on Facebook/Twitter point to updates in this .co.uk site so is it to remain the case or is this simply during a handover phase before the .com one becomes the fully fledged up to date view of Oxford City FC? I know I am not as fully involved as I could be with keeping this site up to date but I wouldn't mind knowing where things stand. You know my email address if you prefer to let me know directly. Cheers for now Julian
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Post by ChrisB on Jun 11, 2013 11:13:40 GMT
Hi Julian, the Pitchero site will still run with all the footballing news/fixtures of all the teams, and Padz and I and all the Team Admins will continue to add material: it's not unofficial. As far as I'm aware it is only the Forum that has become unofficial. The .com site (from what I gather, at least) is more about the 'overall Club' (if that makes sense?!) + 1st XI., and will take its 1st XI news from the Pitchero site...I think!
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Post by Padz on Jun 11, 2013 11:27:53 GMT
Good to hear from you Julian, www.oxfordcityfc.co.uk is still the official Oxford City website and as Chris says myself and him will continue with the news, previews and match summarys, as will the clubs Colts,Ladies etc coaches and will continue to link to the facebook and twitter updates The forum is now 'unofficial' and i was asked by the club to remove the forum link, I've got nothing to do with anything on the .com site. Feel free to drop me an email if theres anything else we need to discuss.
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Post by Julian Dark on Jun 11, 2013 14:24:28 GMT
I see, that makes sense.
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Post by Undertaker on Jun 11, 2013 19:22:16 GMT
Padz, did the club give any reason for asking you to disconnect the forum? What IS their problem? And when are they going to update supporters as to what's really going on and who pull the strings? (this isn't a go at you, but you're possibly in a better position than most to shed some 'unofficial' light on the whole situation.
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Post by Steve Bateman on Jun 11, 2013 23:54:20 GMT
Regarding the change of business name, is this a way of them switching/flipping debts to Oxford City FC?
This is not going to end well.
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Post by Exile 3 on Jun 12, 2013 11:04:14 GMT
I just wanted to thank Padz, Chris and all for keeping the forum open etc. Thank you.
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Post by ITK on Jun 14, 2013 7:01:20 GMT
Now all those links to the .com sponsorship/international website . Are showing only "Reached there band width" ?
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Post by Tommy on Jun 14, 2013 7:52:19 GMT
A 509 means you have to contact the web page admin and pay extra money to restore it .
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Post by tag on Jun 14, 2013 9:35:10 GMT
So the "Wall Street tycoon" can't even keep up with the website hosting payments? What a joke.
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Post by Biffo on Jun 14, 2013 10:16:00 GMT
No this can't happened didn't I read somewhere he is working 24 hours a day on this project ! Or maybe he has more surprises in store !
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